ed said i see no connection between that mitt romney and this mitt romney. you've talked about the remarkable things he's done on wall street. what he did with bain capital, what a great american success story that is. and yet for you as well, there's a huge disconnect between that mitt romney and the mitt romney that we're seeing bumbling around on the campaign trail. it seems that while presidential elections elevate some like reagan and clinton, they diminish others like mitt romney. >> yeah, i think people like me who are fundamentally kind of technocrats and businesspeople look at what he did in massachusetts and say he got a lot of stuff done, worked with the rest of the government, et cetera, et cetera, got health care done, this is how government should function, but i think it's relatively obvious that what happened out on the campaign trail is that he was pushed into places, into corners, into positions that he may or may not actually believe in, but which portray him and create an image of him in a very, very different light. and so now we are lef